Misc. Notes
Per Barbara, left Mary for another woman with a family, perhaps without benefit of divorce. Mary was listed as “widowed” on her death certificate.
From Mary Boas: Joseph Crisalli Sr., Josephine Sisario Zeno, Rose Marie Zeno and Mary Jane Zeno left Amsterdam, New York in 1934 by train and came to San Diego, California. Carmelo Crisalli lost contact with his mother and Rosie and Becky about 1965.
8Unfortunately, cannot find him or his family in the 1910 census. Seems like they should be there, but all the Crisallis listed are downstate and he’s not among them. I’ve looked at Lefferts Avenue and they’re not there. Searching for Carmen doesn’t find them, either.
In 1910 there is a Joseph Caracella of the right age living as a boarder in Jefferson township, Allegheny County, PA, working at a coal mine.
With him was Frank Caracella, 27. They were in the home of an Italian named Faralia. It appears this Joseph immigrated in 1909.
In 1920, Joseph Crisalli was living in Amsterdam, NY, on Lefferts Street, age 32, renting his home, and working as a laborer in a rug mill. (His name was given as “John.”) He reported he had immigrated in 1906; under “Naturalized or alien,” the entry appears to be “Pa” -- don’t know what that means. He and his parents were born in Italy, and his mother tongue was Italian. He could read and write. With him were wife Mary, Carmelo (12), John (8), Joseph (6), Rosie (5) and James (2). All the children were born in New York. The censustaker listed Mary and her parents’ places of birth as “Australia,” though I’m certain she meant “Austria;” she gave Polish as her mother tongue.
3 A look at the 1920 Amsterdam City Directory does not list Crisalle, and doesn’t show the family on Lefferts.
In 1921, the Crisalles appear in the Amsterdam City Directory:
Crisalle Joseph (Josie), barber emp 18 Church, h 140 Forbes
Crisalle Mary Mrs., opr, h 7 Lefferts [that she’s listed as an “operator” is highly suspect].
In the Lefferts Street listing, her name is given as Crisalla.
[So by 1921, when son John was 10, Joseph was already living with/married to Josephine]
In 1922 the listings are the same.
In 1924, there is a listing for
Crisalli & Laconte (Joseph Crisalle and James LaConte), soft drinks, 3 Morris, see p 477
Crisalli Joseph (Josie), (Crisalli & LaConte), h 140 Forbes
Crisalli Mary Mrs., opr, h 7 Lefferts
The ad at p. 477 reads:
Crisalli and LaConte
Board by Day, Week or Meal
Home Cooking
Spaghetti Service At All Times
Tel 1781
3 Morris St. Amsterdam, N.Y.
In 1925:
Crisalli Joseph (Josie), (Spaghetti House), h 140 Forbes
Crisalli Mary Mrs., opr, b 7 Lefferts
Crisello John, millhand, p 261 Cleveland [I suspect this might be John Crisalle]
In 1927:
Crisalli Carmelo, creeler, b rear 32 Lark [a creeler is a textile winder]
Crisalli Joseph (Josie), (Spaghetti House), h 140 Forbes
Crisalli Mary Mrs., opr, h rear 32 Lark
Crisello John, millhand, b 261 Cleveland
In 1929:
Crisalli Carmelo, emp M C Mills, r 251 E Main
Crisalli John, emp M C Mills, r 257 E Main
Crisalli Joseph (Josie), h 38 Lark
Crisalli Joseph, emp M C Mills, r 257 E Main
Crisalli Mary Mrs, opr M C Mills, h 257 E Main
In 1932:
Crisalli Carmelo, emp M C Mills, r 7 Lark
Crisalli John, emp M C Mills, r 7 Lark
Crisalli Joseph (Josie), h 24 James
Crisalli Joseph, clk, r 24 James
Crisalli Joseph, emp M C Mills, r 7 Lark
Crisalli Mary Mrs., opr M C Mills, h 7 Lark
In 1934:
Crisalli Carmelo (Jeannette), emp M C Mills, h 46 Forbes
Crisalli James, r 11 Swan
Crisalli John, emp Colonial Furniture Store, r 11 Swan
Crisalli Joseph (Josephine), h 24 james
Crisalli Joseph Jr, farm lab, r 24 James
Crisalli Joseph, emp M C Mills, r 11 Swan
Crisalli Mary Mrs., opr M C Mills, h 11 Swan
Crisalli Rose, ( 11 Swan [sic]
In 1935:
Crisalli Carmelo (Jeannette), emp M C Mills, h 82 Grove
Crisalli James, forest wkr, r 11 Swan
Crisalli John (Thelma A), emp B S C Co., h 16 Division
Crisalli Joseph (Josephine), h 24 James
Crisalli Joseph Jr, lab, r 24 James
Crisalli Joseph (Nancy), emp city, r 11 Swan
Crisalli Mary Mrs, h 11 Swan
Crisalli Rose, dom, r 11 Swan
In 1936:
Crisalli Carmen (Jeannette), orchestra leader 82 Grove, h do [ditto]
Crisalli James, lab, r 10 Lark
Crisalli Joseph (Nancy), lab, r 10 Lark
Crisalli Mary Mrs, h 10 Lark
Crisalli Rose, mill hand, r 10 Lark
[John is no longer in Amsterdam, and Joseph has left for California]
1937 was the same.
1940:
Crisalli Carmen (Jeannette) barber shop 187-1/2 Market and orchestra leader 82 Grove h do
Crisalli James lab r 10 Lark
Crisalli Mary emp St. Mary's hosp r 82 Grove
Crisalli Mary Mrs h 10 Lark
Crisalli Rose mill hand r 10 Lark
I didn't look past 1940 except for 1959:
Crisalli Mary wid Joseph h 271 E Main
Crisalli Rose beautician Schdy r 271 E Main
In 1930, Joseph Crisalli was noted as a prisoner on the census at Great Meadow Correctional Facility in Comstock (t/o Fort Ann), NY. He was 42, married, and was first married at age 20. He was listed as being able to read and write. He and his parents were born in Italy, and his mother tongue was Italian. He immigrated to the United States in 1905, was naturalized by the time of the census, and was able to speak English. His occupation was “barber” in the “state shop.” He had been at work on the previous working day, and was not a veteran.
5In 1937, he is listed in the San Diego City Directory as Crisalli Jos (Josephine) driver h2075 Logan Av. (The location is now adjacent to Chicano Park and ramps to the I-5, no longer a residential neighborhood.) (The 1936 directory at Ancestry is only telephone listings in numerical order, so not helpful.)
In 1940, he was listed again with Josephine, as a driver, now at 3037 Island Ave., San Diego.
In 1942 he has the same listing.
In the 1947-48 San Diego City Directory, he was listed with Josephine, as a clerk, h 3037 Island Ave. Carmen has now moved to San Diego as well, and is on Polk Ave.
His certificate of naturalization (No. 1688206) shows that he was naturalized by the Supreme Court of Montgomery County at Fonda, NY on May 29, 1922. The certificate itself was issued July 27, 1942, probably in relation to the war. At the time, he was residing at 3037 Island Avenue, San Diego, CA. He was listed as age 55 (at date of issuance of the certificate), white male with light complexion, brown eyes, brown hair, height 5’6”, 220 pounds, with a scar on his left cheek. He is married and his former nationality is Italian. (I have an electronic copy of this certificate.)
There is a WWI draft registration for a Giovanni Crisalli (very clear first name, twice), born July 22, 1887, living at 134 Forbes St., Amsterdam. This also gives his actual hometown as Ceramida, Italy — which is a village in Bagnara Calabra, in the province of Reggio Calabria, 25 km northeast of Reggio Calabria. He was working as a millhand at S. Sanford & Sons. He had a wife and four children, and had no military service. The record is marked June 5, but doesn’t say if it’s 1917 or 1918; James wasn’t born until September 1917.
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Possible immigrations:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 (Ancestry)
S.S. Konigen Luise, from Naples June 9th, 1905, to New York June 23, 1905
Giuseppa Circelli, age 17, single, a baker, could read and write, race and nationality “southern Italian”, destination Toronto, had $19, had never been in the U.S.
S.S. Massilia, from Naples May 6, 1905 to New York May 22, 1905
[entire entry has a line through it, so do a number of others]
Carosella, Giuseppe, age 18, M, labourer, no indication of read/write, South Italian, last residence something like “Guardiagrale”, no destination given, had not been in prison, was not a polygamist or anarchist, health was good.
But with him is “wife Ferrante Rosa,” age 16, also a labourer, also crossed out. A Luigi Carosella, age 23, is next and is not crossed out.
S.S. Napolitan Prince, from Naples April 5, 1905, to New York April 24, 1905
[again, entire entry is crossed out]
Giuseppe Circelli, age 18, last residence looks like “S. Bartolomeo G.” No polygamy, prison or anarchy, good health, no other details are recorded.
S.S. Sicilian Prince, from Naples April 24, 1905, to New York May 15, 1905
Giuseppe Circelli, 18, male, single, labourer, could not read or write, last residence was “S. Bartolemeo in G” (presumably San Bartolomeo in Galdo, part of Campania), destination Philadelphia, paid for himself, had $11, had not been in U.S. before.
S.S. Konigen Luise, from Naples Oct. 14, 1904, to New York Oct. 28, 1904:
[marked “Admitted”]
Guiseppe Corsello, age 16, male, single, farmer, could not read/write, nationality and race Southern Italian, destination New York, paid his own passage, had $20, had never been to U.S., and waas joining family at 1934 Amsterdam Avenue, New York, “mother Rosalia”. No jail, anarchy, polygamy, or indentured labor, was in good health.
There are just too many alternate Giuseppes from that time to keep trying to track this down.